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Permalink Reply by Ajit P on August 11, 2015 at 22:24

Dear Ms. Dyuti Samanta,
First of all, I would like to congratulate you that you being selected in DRDO. My two friends are there at DRDO (one at Delhi and other one at Agra). Promotion is there after every five years for the Technical Cadre staffs'. Next Promotion for you will be "Technical Officer" with a scale of 9300-34800 and GP 4600 (likely to be revised to GP 4800/-). As per your PhD is concerned, DRDO looks for PhD in Science (for eg. PhD Chemistry, PhD in Biotechnology etc....). Please check your promotion time periods of your current job. DRDO is a reputed organisation, thus I request you to be with a brand name.

regards,

Ajit P.

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Permalink Reply by Dyuti Samanta on August 11, 2015 at 22:36

Sir first of all my name initiation should be Mr. and thanks for your valuable

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Permalink Reply by Munesh Kumar on August 11, 2015 at 23:13

What is this? "RDO n"

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Permalink Reply by Munesh Kumar on August 11, 2015 at 23:07

Congratulations friend, Mr. Samanta

There is nothing which may be known as the best. It's you, who can make the things better and best. As per your current status, you should focus on Ph.D and librarian position which you have hold. If you have enthusiasm to get better or best, definitely you will get in future. If think that you are more capable than STA-B, then try for the next level and bigger than this. I would also suggest you to apply only for the the post for which you are eligible and qualified, ignore all the positions for which you are overqualified.

Thanking you... 

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Permalink Reply by PUNEET K CHHABRA on August 12, 2015 at 0:29

Dear Mr Samanta,

Congratulations on getting Job in DRDO. Tell me your joining lab, so that i can tell you about the environment. One more thing the promotion in this cadre is not fixed in every five year. Give me your e-mail id i will tell you in detail

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Permalink Reply by Dyuti Samanta on August 12, 2015 at 6:26

Thank you sir for your valuable reply. My posting is in Ahmednagar, Maharastra. My E-mail id - dsamantalis@gmail.com . Kindly provide me the details as soon as possible. 

                                                                                                            Regards

                                                                                                           Dyuti

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Permalink Reply by ADDANKI DURVASU on August 12, 2015 at 1:10

I am Durvasu, Ag college, Bapatla.congratulations for your success.mostly you would like to join DRDO. why because scale is different and it is higher post than in your existing or working post. so your interest and think which you have join.

durvasu@yahoo.com

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Permalink Reply by Siddhartha Shankar Ray on August 12, 2015 at 1:28

Dear Sri Dyuti Samanta,

Congratulation. DRDO is one of the best among govt. funded research organizations. You will get Central Govt. Pay Scales with all the applicable benefits. In this regard it is more lucrative than School service. But please check about posting place and transfer issues. Additionally check for assessment issues very minutely. Had it been a CSIR institute, you could have been almost sure that transfer possibilities are quite remote and they have unique time bound assessment scheme for technical staff which includes library staff. In the context of financial package & facilities, DRDO is certainly better but there remains other criteria as well life transfers & relocations. For example, if you are posted in a Metro city, you will get 30% House rent & admissible Conveyance Allowances but if you are transferred to  non-Metro cities (like from New Delhi to Jodhpur) your house rent will be less so also Conveyance Allowances. Additionally, you have to relocate to a new place which may be costly. It is also possible to be transferred to remote areas (but that possibility is rather rare)  which may not be congenial at times. So these are the issues. For my personal view, if you want challenges, accept DRDO but if you feel to be at your home town and want a peaceful undisturbed life and is content with modest salary, you may stay back. Rest lies upon you.

Sincerely,

Siddhartha S. Ray, Calcutta

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Permalink Reply by Dyuti Samanta on August 12, 2015 at 18:48

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Permalink Reply by Munesh Kumar on August 12, 2015 at 21:15

Thank you sir…

Shri. Siddhartha Sir. 

We have always been getting valuable response and suggestions. Sir, I think those who are in their beginning phase of professional carrier, they should much worry about the location, nature of job, environment, etc. If a person thinks too much after getting the appointment letter, then he/she should not join. It’s my suggestion to them. Because, he/she can't be a true employee or a right team member for carrying institute further towards its visions and objectives.

Sir, they should check all these details, before sending applications (request) for job or before going to write exam and never after that. After declaration of results there is no meaning to talk about these kinds of things. I don’t understand why people become a factor of losses of public resource invested in conducting exam and interview? Working in any type of organization, Govt. or Pvt. is not easier and neither luxurious. Liking package and promotion etc. should be in priority list but not on top. First we should try to justify and deserve for the same/them. It is organization’s responsibility to facilitate the things to its employees, even more or less but constantly we get whatever the facilities and extra remunerations are approved by competent authorities for the employees. If a person is not accepting and neither going to join, he/she is spoiling other’s job also. Because of him/her, other interested and needy candidate suffers and they don’t opportunity to get a job. I think you understood sir, what I mean herewith. 

Kindly put your remarks for us... 

Thanking you...

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Permalink Reply by Siddhartha Shankar Ray on August 13, 2015 at 0:04

Dear Sri Munesh Kumar,

Many thanks to your comments.

There is an old proverb Look Before You Leap!!

You are absolutely correct in explaining the issue from an impersonal outlook but actually, when we seek jobs, we often apply to many places irrespective of their locations. It is human nature and it is practicality Because there is no guarantee that if anybody applies at one place only s/he will certainly get that job!!never-the-less, there are other reasons also.

For instance, in my young days, I used to apply only to those organizations who offered both ways Train Fares! I must confess that my motto was to see the places partially free of cost or at modest expenditure!! I openly admit that I certainly had spoiled chances of other candidates as I often been selected. I openly apologise for my past sins!! Even while applying to my present place, I applied at two places simultaneously; one here, at Calcutta and other in Western India ( I am not mentioning it for obvious reasons!!) . At that time I badly needed a change and I had no choice! Incidentally, I was selected in both the places while the other one advertised a scale higher than my the then scale here. The reason was simple, I was not confirmed whether I will be called by any of these two for interview or if called I was not sure whether I will get job at any of the places. And when I bagged both the jobs at quick succession, I started making calculations. At that time Calcutta was just announced as a A1 Class City and it enabled me to get 30% HRA. while the other city was not A1city at that time & 15% HRA was admissible. Through quick financial calculation, I deduced that If I leave my home town to join the very reputed Organization in Western India, I will get a hike of Rs. 2000/- P.M. than what I will be earning at my new place in the same city I reside while if I decide otherwise, I have to relocate and additionally, I have to pay for accommodation there while my installments for the residence I bought at Calcutta was ongoing. Besides, there was question of schooling of my ward. So with all these parameters, I opted for the job at Calcutta in a scale lower than the other one. But all these calculations and decisions were possible only because I had option to choose. Had I been selected  in the organization in Western India only I had no choice but to go there. I admit that I might have caused inconvenience both for the organization and other aspiring applicants but I had hardly any better choice.

Here, in Mr. Dyuti Samanta's post, he is in a dilemma whether to go for DRDO job or stay back at his home town. You might have seen that I have given him an impersonal view and never-the-less, an applicant will certainly apply for several openings because as I mentioned earlier, there is no certainty whether or where s/he will be selected. So practically speaking, s/he has no choice after all!!. It is obvious that it may cause distress among other candidates and the organizations may be in a disturbed phase for the time being but by nature we concentrate on our own interest and convenience and one can not blame them outright. In-service people often takes lien (up to 5 years) to join a post so that if the new place does not suit, the incumbent can revert back to his/her previous place. Here also s/he sort of deprives others who might have been extremely needy and cause great inconvenience for his/her own organization s/he has served. But such exercise is officially accepted & approved. 

I am sorry I differ from your opinion but only because of reality.

Sincerely,

Siddhartha S. Ray, Calcutta

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Permalink Reply by Munesh Kumar on August 13, 2015 at 3:47

Thank you sir your reply...

It is not matter of felling sorry or out of professionalism that your statements are opposite to mine. Sir, I had left my communication in half and ended by switching over to you side. I know these things that we are not sure about our future but, we should be logical and balanced/determined on our choices and action. I completely agree with you and with the condition of Mr. Samanta. But, it’s delay for him to think for environment and culture of an institution.

I am also agreeing with your statement, “approved and official” but approval is not given by keeping in mind or by observing this kind of situation of an individual, who is selected and then starts thinking about the job/culture/remuneration etc. and comparing with his current status with some tentative logics. Decision or rules are always given in favor of society where society can develop and can grow. Accepting or rejecting a job is wish/right of an individual, who is in effect, if a person insist for job means he/she want that particular job, the exam authority also think in same direction because application is sent by an eligible and interested candidate only. After the getting result in favor, candidate starts judging his caliber and intelligence instead of joining there (which should be done before application). If a selected candidate joins then the requirement of both employers and candidates will be fulfilled equally, if he/she don’t join the employer will not suffer much but employee (existing, has to work more because the vacant sheet will not be occupied and the work will be taken care by the existing employees only, here the humanities is in loss) and also all those candidate will suffer who are equally, interested and eligible for that particular job (they have to wait for next vacancy notification, here also the loss has to be borne by humanity only). And other group of aspirant will file RTI to collect the information on the vacant post under an organization. Employer has to answer that question asked through RTI and then same people (who are rejecting today) will start crying that they (employers) are not filling the vacant posts, we will go to UGC, MHRD, and we will… etc. etc. Today in each organization lots of vacant posts are there, always institutions are responsible; if a post is remain vacant. We should also think and should accept our mistakes. We know that in each organization many vacant sheets are there, the reason is behind it organization is not getting good employees; neither a candidate knows what he wants to do. I openly tell to them, those who ask me regarding the vacancies and post to apply for, “don’t apply for the post for which you are overqualified and never apply for the job below to your qualification, believe in your knowledge and qualification surely you will get the job of your eligibility”, I think I am right for maximum who believes in “we” instead of “I”. I have not sketched the situation of Samanta, but I have suggested him to not join, neither to apply for all those jobs, for he is overqualified. But, I compared my suggestions with your statement, now I come to a conclusion that he must to take this job, and he has to think for personal to make others in queue to take the job in future, and he should help in reducing the number of job seekers. I would like to remind that DRDO's stations/Labs are major locates in remote areas; out of cities, so he might not be benefited with 30% HRA and other incentives as application in Metros. I also think for my personal but that will not affect others. This is a single case of Mr. Samanta, but what about others, those don’t bring their stories on an open platform like Mr. Samanta has brought on LISLinks. I think we should only try to reduce the number of unemployed by assuring our actions and decisions prior in advance. For filling one vacant post, more than Rs.10 lack expenses have to be borne by the DRDO and minimum Rs.2000/head to be borne by candidate (and plus hidden expense/losses) who wants to get that particular vacant . It might be correct that these expenses are part of economy cycle but this practice is not practical in this regard.  Everyone has to think, it is not any childish game that if you when you wish to play, you can play or you can quit once your interest is over. I may be that you might not be affected directly but someone has to borne those expenses. So don’t become a cause of the problems rather than a salutation.

Note: Mr. Samanta please, do not take it as personal. I have ref. your name, here in my statements, but personally speaking you are not responsible for these, equally “we are all responsible for this problem”.  

Thanks...

 

 

 

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