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Intro + suggestion for the survival of this community
Firstly let me introduce myself. I am not Indian, and I am neither a librarian nor an information science professional. I am a Swiss freelance translator, much indebted to librarians in several countries who helped me when I was doing research for books I edited or co-edited.
This is the reason why I applied to join when I saw Badan Barman's message on the home page about this stupendous community at risk of disappearing for the sole reason that its hosting provider, Ning, is insensitive to the difficulties people in some countries encounter when they want to make a payment abroad.
As to the suggestion: I believe this community could be migrated with almost no loss to grou.ps. Denise Easton, who works for ULiveAndLearn, thus migrated http://innovate-ideagora.ning.com/ to http://grou.ps/ideagora/home , keeping almost all the content and info, including the member profiles (well, we had to sign up again, but we got an automatic alert about it).
The only thing that did not migrate was the videos. Actually, as grou.ps free plan has a 2GB storage limit, it's better not to host videos there but to embed them from another platform.
And almost all your videos are already embedded from YouTube, with3 5 exceptions hosted directly here i.e. on Ning:
- Library Cataloguing Practice Part-1 21:53 uploaded by Murtaza
- From Books to Bytes uploaded by JIT PRABHAKARAN
- Gold_384K uploaded by Pradeep Mishra
- SR Ranganathan uploaded by Murtaza
- Dewey Decimal Classification Part-1uploaded by Dr, Pawan Sharma
Therefore:
1) These3 5 videos can be downloaded for security with the Ning archiving tool (see http://help.ning.com/cgi-bin/ning.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faq... ) by this community's creator.
2) I am going to bookmark the originals of the embedded videos under http://www.diigo.com/user/calmansi/lislinks_videos so that you can re-embed them at grou.ps if you migrate there [update: it's done now]
3) The creator of this community can migrate it to grou.ps - explanations in http://grou.ps/move_ning.php
Actually, 3 can be done before 2 is completed.
Just an idea.
This is the reason why I applied to join when I saw Badan Barman's message on the home page about this stupendous community at risk of disappearing for the sole reason that its hosting provider, Ning, is insensitive to the difficulties people in some countries encounter when they want to make a payment abroad.
As to the suggestion: I believe this community could be migrated with almost no loss to grou.ps. Denise Easton, who works for ULiveAndLearn, thus migrated http://innovate-ideagora.ning.com/ to http://grou.ps/ideagora/home , keeping almost all the content and info, including the member profiles (well, we had to sign up again, but we got an automatic alert about it).
The only thing that did not migrate was the videos. Actually, as grou.ps free plan has a 2GB storage limit, it's better not to host videos there but to embed them from another platform.
And almost all your videos are already embedded from YouTube, with
- Library Cataloguing Practice Part-1 21:53 uploaded by Murtaza
- From Books to Bytes uploaded by JIT PRABHAKARAN
- Gold_384K uploaded by Pradeep Mishra
- SR Ranganathan uploaded by Murtaza
- Dewey Decimal Classification Part-1uploaded by Dr, Pawan Sharma
Therefore:
1) These
2) I am going to bookmark the originals of the embedded videos under http://www.diigo.com/user/calmansi/lislinks_videos so that you can re-embed them at grou.ps if you migrate there [update: it's done now]
3) The creator of this community can migrate it to grou.ps - explanations in http://grou.ps/move_ning.php
Actually, 3 can be done before 2 is completed.
Just an idea.
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Permalink Reply by Dr. Badan Barman on
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Now Physically I am in a better position.
When i make a search for the alternative ning network two months ago for a suitable home for LIS Links site, I dont found http://grou.ps/ useful. I found http://spruz.com/ more suitable for us.
Till now grou.ps may incorporate some new features. I have to make a comparison before the decision.
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Permalink Reply by Claude Almansi on
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I'm glad you're better, Thank you again for accepting me here: as I wrote, my first motive for applying is that it would be a total shame if this network got deleted. And thanks for the info about http://spruz.com/
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The following announcement is great for all of us
"Deadline for Selecting a Ning Plan Extended to August 30, 2010
A number of Network Creators, particularly those based outside the United States, have requested more time to arrange for payment and make the right decision on a plan for their network. As a result, we have extended the deadline for selecting one of the three new plans (Ning Mini, Plus and Pro) to August 30, 2010. Beginning on this date, we will block access to any free Ning Network that isn't subscribed to one of the three plans.
Please let us know if we can help, or if you have questions or comments. Thank you!"
Source: http://help.ning.com/cgi-bin/ning.cfg/php/enduser/home.php.
Among the many, you play a leading role in this regard to make an extention of the the Ning's deadline. We (who are unable to pay) are thankful to you madam.
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Thanks for the compliment, but I think that your messages and those from other creators who were unable to pay within the deadline because of regulations in their countries and Ning's limited payment processes were far more important:
And though I know it's not the right moment, tactically, to take issue with this, I strongly disliked the way the first Ning person who intervened on Ning Creators about the change of deadline explained it:
"... The deadline has been extended. We made this decision because we had a lot of people, particularly from far-flung corners of the Earth, who weren't able to pay by credit card or PayPal or any other means. If you're a regular here on Creators, you no doubt saw the pleas by people who were kind of freaking out because they were stuck in this situation. ..."
Not that we really needed a further confirmation of the US ethnocentrism of Ning, or did we?
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Madam,
Excuse me. I am unable to catch the meaning of this sentence "Not that we really needed a further confirmation of the US ethnocentrism of Ning, or did we?". Please do use simple language so that we can understand. Again, I think it will be better to talk over this issues right on the creator. All big people are there, who are contradicting their own prior decision. So, I am going to post it on creator itself.
Again, for your information you can see a list of social network service provider and their comparison over here.
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Apologies for my convoluted wording. by "US ethnocentrism of Ning" I meant their concluding a partnership with Pearson for sponsoring educational networks that only applies to North American networks: see Teaming up with Pearson to sponsor educational networks, and the incapacity of Steven Gross from Pearson and of Derek Zabbia from Ning to understand how educators outside North America can bring anything useful to US education, during the online discussion Steve Hargadon organised with them on July 19 (recording available from this post on S. Hargadon's blog).
As to posting about this issue on Creators, be careful: the overworked moderators can ban easily when contradicted - I got banned just after having re-opened the comments on 2 discussions. Should they ban you too, you can override the "no viewing" consequence by deleting the banning cookie form your browser (or use another browser). But you won't be able to join again if you want to ask questions.
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I still have access to the creator site. They dont banned me till now and I think they would not.
I think they are very much annoyed with you, even you cannot go against their decision as you are not a creator of any Ning site. They have this strong point against you.
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I am, though: http://pakfeeds.ning.com - but I don't mind being banned from creators
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Your Crossing the Boundaries of Ning post on Ning Creators is a great lesson about how Web 2.0 resources should be used. I mentioned it in my http://etcjournal.com/2010/08/22/nings-new-deadline-for-pay-only-au... post about Ning's new deadline.
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